E15 | Iain McIntosh | From Dilapidation to Revelation: Journeying from Plato’s Cave to Pluto’s Cove



Stories never end; they just continue, evolve, and become something new.
— Iain McIntosh

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A video version can be found below.


In this thought-provoking episode, Iain invites us on a transformative journey from Plato’s Cave to Pluto’s Cove. Beginning by introducing a dream-inspired analogy of a dilapidated theme park, he questions the deeper significance of this ‘broken-down’ setting and its metaphorical implications for our collective experience at this time. Iain reflects on the evolving nature of stories and underscores the importance of asking, “What happens next?” as a pivotal question in our current historical moment. We delve into the contrast between productivity and rest, consumerism and the Law of Reciprocity, and explore what it might mean to create in harmony with Natural Laws and Earthly powers rather than fighting against them or ignoring them. Iain also shares personal stories, including a serious car accident, weaving these experiences into the themes of our discussion. This episode offers a rich exploration of evolving perspectives, embracing transformation, the dance of time, and the deep mythic threads of connection that shape our journey of Becoming.


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Thematic Show Notes


The Dilapidated Theme Park:

  • Iain introduces the analogy of a ‘broken-down theme park’ from his dreamscape.

  • Key lessons from this dream journey are explored.

  • We delve into the significance of what’s growing in the cracks and why these overlooked forces matter.


Plato's Cave to Pluto's Cove:

  • Extends the Plato's Cave analogy into a new story, 'Pluto's Cove.'

  • The evolving nature of stories is emphasized, along with the question, “What happens next?”


The Cosmic Giggle:

  • Reflects on embracing ‘the cosmic giggle’ in navigating life’s ebbs and flows.

  • This playful perspective is highlighted as a way to continue evolving beyond any perceived story’s end.


Hope as a Trickster:

  • We discuss hope as a non-binary trickster, challenging conventional views.

  • Iain encourages a nuanced and flexible understanding of life’s unfolding narratives.


The Spiral of Change:

  • Change as a spiraling process with forward momentum.

  • The significance of diversity of perspective in navigating this journey is underscored.


Ancestry and Wounds:

  • The concept of being “an ancestor to yourself.”

  • How our wounds shape us and the importance of carrying them forward.

  • Iain encourages awareness of the lines of gold in our lives that are often overlooked.


Consumerism vs. Reciprocity:

  • We contrast consumerism culture with the law of reciprocity.

  • We explore the importance of creating in harmony with natural law and Earthly powers.


Undone to Grow:

  • We discuss the necessity of being undone to grow, evolve, and become.

  • The opportunity within the process of undoing and the difference between the Soul’s pace and the ego’s pace is emphasized.


The Dance of Time:

  • Reflections on the dance between Chronos and Kairos.

  • Presence is explored as a way to facilitate a different perception of time, crucial in the art of counsel and the path of Becoming.


Assault on the Senses:

  • We connect the assault on the wildness of Earth to an assault on our sense-making.

  • The importance of reclaiming our integrated, sensorial selves and reconnecting with Earth’s wilds is highlighted.


Final Reflections:

  • The conversation concludes with a reflection from Iain, offering listeners a final take-away that ties together the diverse themes explored in the episode.


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